1.6TDI Emission recall Done

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1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Beaker2135 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:37 pm

So I too the van in on Monday for a service and the emissions recall mod, I thought I might as well as I'm considering a remap so if it all went wrong I'd lose nothing
So here's what I think;
POWER. The engine feels to pull better a low rpm so there seems to be more torque and maybe power. Feels like a stage 0.5 remap. It would be interesting to see a before and after dyno to see what gains, if any, there are

ECONOMY. According to the MFD my average mpg was 47.0 before I took it in, that would be over about 7-8k. It is far too early to say what the effects of the update are but over the 100 miles I've done it is recording 46.8 mpg. I can't imagine VW would roll out an update that made mpg worse, the outcry would be huge. Time will tell

DEALER. we've carried out a free vehicle health check. Rear discs are worn, rear wiper needs replacing, horn is too quite and your air con needs a service. Err no it's all ok, you can't even reset the service light properly ffs

OVERALL. It was worthwhile as the van seems to drive better, I have a certificate to say it's been done. I'd have it done, unless you have had a remap
Oh and I now have an umbrella, go figure :?
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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Fran1981 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:08 pm

I'm toying with the idea of taking mine in for the recall, the mpg to go down that little doesnt make a huge difference. might go ahead and get it done :)

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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Joepayne1 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:24 am

Agree on the low rpm power, felt exactly the same.


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Re: RE: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Skibadee » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:27 pm

Beaker2135 wrote:So I too the van in on Monday for a service and the emissions recall mod, I thought I might as well as I'm considering a remap so if it all went wrong I'd lose nothing
So here's what I think;
POWER. The engine feels to pull better a low rpm so there seems to be more torque and maybe power. Feels like a stage 0.5 remap. It would be interesting to see a before and after dyno to see what gains, if any, there are

ECONOMY. According to the MFD my average mpg was 47.0 before I took it in, that would be over about 7-8k. It is far too early to say what the effects of the update are but over the 100 miles I've done it is recording 46.8 mpg. I can't imagine VW would roll out an update that made mpg worse, the outcry would be huge. Time will tell

DEALER. we've carried out a free vehicle health check. Rear discs are worn, rear wiper needs replacing, horn is too quite and your air con needs a service. Err no it's all ok, you can't even reset the service light properly ffs

OVERALL. It was worthwhile as the van seems to drive better, I have a certificate to say it's been done. I'd have it done, unless you have had a remap
Oh and I now have an umbrella, go figure :?
I'm losing 60 miles a tank since update.

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Re: RE: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Mojoke » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:35 pm

WARNING!!!

Ok, so my caddy is still at the dealers, and I am awaiting responses from VW.

It definitely requires a replacement EGR valve, and VW knew this in advance.

It took me just 10 mins last night to find 15 other web posts (many on Honestjohn) telling of this known problem.

The emissions recall letter SHOULD therefore read "dear VW customer we CAN reprogram your vehicle to comply with the emissions requirements, but if the mileage on the vehicle is high (in excess of 70-80,000 miles) we must advise you in advance that there is a known high percentage of cases where within weeks this procedure will cause clogging of the EGR valve, requiring its expensive replacement"

In that basis I would never have agreed to the update.
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Re: RE: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Beaker2135 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:09 pm

Mojoke wrote:Sorry to hear, but somewhat relieved I'm not the only one!
Not looking good potential 10% worse fuel economy
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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by flatpackdan » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:23 am

10% loss in fuel economy is serious stuff, I'll stick with my custom remap, thanks. :)
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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Barbel330 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:19 am

Likewise! There's no way they're touching mine.
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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by flatpackdan » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:24 am

Barbel330 wrote:Likewise! There's no way they're touching mine.
What are you running? I've manage 175bhp from my 1.6. I'm sure with DPF/EGR delete I could push this closer to 200 but I won't jeopardise any future MOT tests. I believe they are going to be testing for diesel particulates soon and not just a visual inspection.
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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Barbel330 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:03 am

Just a 140 remap on mine Dan but it's running fine so I don't want them touching it at all having read these posts about mpg reductions and others developing faults after the updates.
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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Mojoke » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:48 am

As soon as VW have finished p*ssing about with mine I will get a re-map done; not necessarily for performance, but for efficiency. Clearly my van is not running to optimum. I've always done lots of annual mileage (30-40k), and some time in the past I used to drive like there was no tomorrow (and occasionally paid for the privilege in points and fines!) but generally in company cars. Now its my own vehicle I tend to be in less of a hurry, with an eye on reliability and economy.

in my most recent previous 1.9TDI Passat I averaged 46-50 mpg, even pushing it hard. With the Caddy, even driving it like a retired vicar I was struggling to get anywhere close to 40mpg pre-recall, and now it is all over the place, but mostly around 28-32mpg.

All those saying they will skip the emissions recall, how will you stand at MOT time, or when you sell the vehicle on? And does a re-map effect this too?

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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by donnielee » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:14 pm

here in denmark its manditory

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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Maxi4life » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:23 pm

Hopefully won't be mandatory for mot here. As for selling on I think any clued up buyer will know all about how it's better not being done. Probably will be needed for mot anyway.

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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Barbel330 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:41 pm

I don't see why it would be mandatory? It's not a safety issue and the vans have passed the mot emissions without problem up to now without the update?
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Re: 1.6TDI Emission recall Done

Post by Maxi4life » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:52 pm

The DVSA say in their letter about compliance to emissions standards. I know we don't test for Nox gas here yet but seems like if your vehicle isn't on the list as completed it doesn't comply according to them. Speculation of course but why send letters using these kind of terms and why is it a problem at all?

Lad on vw parts desk thinks that you are not forced to do it. My question is why send us these kind of letters from the DVSA

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