Road tax

[Steve Robbo]

Morning I’m new to the forum and was just wanting a bit of advice .
I’ve been looking to buy a caddy and was wondering which model diesel 2011 on has the cheapest road tax
Cheers
Steve

[Doc]

Hi, welcome to the forum.
All the commercial Caddys have the same tax.
If you're buying a passenger model (life), it's gonna be the same as car tax.

[RKDesigns]

In england is if you Buy a commercial Caddy as private person its still the commercial road tax? Over here in The Netherlands you have to pay in that case the passenger version road tax. And it Depends also on weight categories how high the tax Will be.


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[CaddyShack2k]

On the V5 it will be listed either as Light Commercial or Car Derived Van, I suppose the latter applies to the Maxi Life, I recently paid something like £165 for six months on my 1.9 tdi!! The government should hire Dick Turpin to collect road tax

[Doc]

Car derived van is still commercial.
The life is a passenger car.

[Bluebeard]

On the V5 it will be listed either as Light Commercial or Car Derived Van, I suppose the latter applies to the Maxi Life, I recently paid something like £165 for six months on my 1.9 tdi!! The government should hire Dick Turpin to collect road tax

thats a lot! I thought £240 for a year was steep on a 1.6

[tommyzooom]

Count your blessings...
In Irl road tax is €333,+ €111 annual cvrt(mot) test

[CaddyShack2k]

Count your blessings...
In Irl road tax is €333,+ €111 annual cvrt(mot) test

That'll go up when we stop shovelling money into the EU

[SnoWhite]

Wow - Some interesting insights into relative vehicle ownership costs in this thread.

Meantime over in France they really like doing things their own unique way.

Instead of paying for an expensive system to separately collect road tax, their road tax (Tax Fiscale) is collected automatically as a mandatory surcharge on all French insurance policies. Typically this adds around 140 euro pa for a 1.6 caddy to underlying insurance.

As for testing fees, again they like doing things differently. They require biennial MOT (Controle Technique) tests after a vehicle is 4 years old . These can produce a weird - pass, almost passed and fail result. Because testing is only mandatory every two years the testers don't just look to see if the vehicle is "safe today" - they also look for anything which is likely to need attention within the following two years, in which case they only issue a Contra Visit pass which is valid for 1 month to allow the identified issues like serviceable but nearly worn out tyres or brake pads to be replaced, and then re examined at the same station. Last time for me a basic test cost 98 euro with a retest 65 - so it could easily work out more expensive that Ireland.

Another uniquely French idea is there is no MOT(Controle Technique) for 2 wheelers (scooters/motorbikes of any size). Testing is a very lucrative business with a lot of German firms active in France and most EU markets. Inevitably they are keen to increase their profits and the big testing firms have been lobbying France via EU harmonisation talks, to introduce mandatory tests for motorbikes and thankfully the French have the guts to keep saying Non! They point to independent insurance industry data which consistently shows that French registered motorbikes have far fewer accidents where a vehicle defect is identified as a contributory factor, compared with motorbikes from those countries with mandatory testing. Why? Well French bikers are not lulled into a false sense of security by a piece of paper still being valid, they know that they are the only ones checking their bike, so they tend to ensure they check their bike over before every ride, and of course the money not being spent on testing fees is available to spend on replacing tyres and brake pads. Perhaps more by luck the French have found a zero cost way to ensure that French registered motorbikes are less likely to be involved in accidents.

It will be interesting to see if post Brexit the UK is willing to learn from France and finally become brave enough to piss off the self interested German testing firms and decide to abandon testing for motorbikes. Interesting times ahead.

[Gaj69]

Wow - Some interesting insights into relative vehicle ownership costs in this thread.

Meantime over in France they really like doing things their own unique way.

Instead of paying for an expensive system to separately collect road tax, their road tax (Tax Fiscale) is collected automatically as a mandatory surcharge on all French insurance policies. Typically this adds around 140 euro pa for a 1.6 caddy to underlying insurance.

As for testing fees, again they like doing things differently. They require biennial MOT (Controle Technique) tests after a vehicle is 4 years old . These can produce a weird - pass, almost passed and fail result. Because testing is only mandatory every two years the testers don't just look to see if the vehicle is "safe today" - they also look for anything which is likely to need attention within the following two years, in which case they only issue a Contra Visit pass which is valid for 1 month to allow the identified issues like serviceable but nearly worn out tyres or brake pads to be replaced, and then re examined at the same station. Last time for me a basic test cost 98 euro with a retest 65 - so it could easily work out more expensive that Ireland.

Another uniquely French idea is there is no MOT(Controle Technique) for 2 wheelers (scooters/motorbikes of any size). Testing is a very lucrative business with a lot of German firms active in France and most EU markets. Inevitably they are keen to increase their profits and the big testing firms have been lobbying France via EU harmonisation talks, to introduce mandatory tests for motorbikes and thankfully the French have the guts to keep saying Non! They point to independent insurance industry data which consistently shows that French registered motorbikes have far fewer accidents where a vehicle defect is identified as a contributory factor, compared with motorbikes from those countries with mandatory testing. Why? Well French bikers are not lulled into a false sense of security by a piece of paper still being valid, they know that they are the only ones checking their bike, so they tend to ensure they check their bike over before every ride, and of course the money not being spent on testing fees is available to spend on replacing tyres and brake pads. Perhaps more by luck the French have found a zero cost way to ensure that French registered motorbikes are less likely to be involved in accidents.

It will be interesting to see if post Brexit the UK is willing to learn from France and finally become brave enough to piss off the self interested German testing firms and decide to abandon testing for motorbikes. Interesting times ahead.

2016 Caddy Life Bluemotion is £30 for the year


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[DJOHALL]

I can’t get commercial tax here in Ireland on my 2016 Caddy and they want me to tax it privately at a cost of €710. It really makes me mad to think that another VW using the same engine as mine can be taxed for around €200 for the year.

[CaddyShack2k]

I can’t get commercial tax here in Ireland on my 2016 Caddy and they want me to tax it privately at a cost of €710. It really makes me mad to think that another VW using the same engine as mine can be taxed for around €200 for the year.

HOLY SHIT! €710!! I'd start doing something drastic like registering it in Ulster and paying British tax

...you'd get a cool Ulster number plate too

[RKDesigns]

In The Netherlands 2.0 tdi Caddy 4 is around €350,- per year as company owner, private owner without a company.. then its over €110,- per month for the road tax. Here they look in categories of weight.


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[Austins]

The tax system is beyond me it costs me 252 for the year on the 1.9 tdi caddy yet my 4.6 v8 mg mustang engine tourer is 290 for the year absolute crazy

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[Doc]

That's not a fair apples with apples comparison. Your Caddy is a commercial vehicle and thus falls under that tax bracket.
Commercial vehicles, disregarding the extreme high and low mileages, cover say 20,000 - 150,000 miles per year.
Consider the difference in wear and tare on the road network compared to a private vehicle averaging 12,000 miles per year.
THIS is where your difference in road tax comes from!
It might not seem fair when your only using your commercial vehicle for private use, but it is the way it is and it's unlikely to change any time soon.