DPF delete EGR delete
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Had to be said, I'm a plasterer and I'd never remove Artex or skim over it without it being verified for asbestos, many would but my conscience wouldn't let me, so I suppose there are plenty of mot testers out there with no scruples. What puzzles me is if you want a fast van get a petrol engine, but you don't get the economy I hear you say, that's been offset by the fortune you spend getting the old smoker to go fast in the first place
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Got to agree with Barbel330 personally, but trying to change somebody's world view on an internet forum will never happen unfortunately. People will hold their own "reality" most dear to them and never let go of it. They just won't believe the truth even when your willing to put it right in front of them and they get angry.
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There’s always a few folks about that have strong and rather inflammatory/edgy views.CaddyShack2k wrote:I've been working on a house for about three weeks now for a lovely family, very friendly and upbeat despite their eleven year old daughter living with leukaemia, the family never complained once and the little girl was full of life and optimism despite weekly 80 mile round trips for chemotherapy treatments that made her violently ill, I'm not saying diesel gave her cancer but diesel DOES cause cancer, especially when you get spoilt bastards who make theirs even more toxic and compare it to terrorism to justify it! I for one hope that VOSA come down like a ton of bricks on dpf and egr deletes
Think about it this way, if you drive around with a van that is illegally modified well, you can justifying in your own head by moaning about the price of replacement emission control parts. But think about this, apply this to further up the food chain, ie the local councils, the police, the government, the world!
We are privileged enough in this country to be able to do what we can for air quality, big things happen when everybody make a tiny difference. I have been through the cancer, chemo and Radiotherapy thing and it’s pretty unpleasant, I am now suffering with Radiotherapy fibrosis but I am still working and am very grateful to still be here, anything we can do to keep air quality high must be a good thing. Cancer, Asthma and a host of other nasty’s can and are caused directly from vehicle emissions. We all suffer from the human condition of being a bit of a twat and selfish but remember MOT testers when carrying out a MOT work for VOSA not them self’s.
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Re: DPF delete EGR delete
How far off topic has this thread gone?
The guy asked if it is correct that the DPF and EGR delete will fail MOT. I answered yes.
The guy asked if the van should be avoided. Again my answer was yes because in just asking the question the OP displayed that they have limited knowledge of the inns and outs of MOTs and how to avoid some failures.
There is no need to go into particular of how this and that can be done, how Mr X and Y are prepared to give you a pass or how politics might be involved. The questions were asked and answered, the other discussions have happened over and over and there is zero requirement to bring them up yet again.
The guy asked if it is correct that the DPF and EGR delete will fail MOT. I answered yes.
The guy asked if the van should be avoided. Again my answer was yes because in just asking the question the OP displayed that they have limited knowledge of the inns and outs of MOTs and how to avoid some failures.
There is no need to go into particular of how this and that can be done, how Mr X and Y are prepared to give you a pass or how politics might be involved. The questions were asked and answered, the other discussions have happened over and over and there is zero requirement to bring them up yet again.
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Is that how you want all threads to be Doc? Just you answering questions with what your opinion is, in one word replies? Beyond that nobody else should bother to add their thoughts?
People talk, people add their opinions, people go way off topic, nobody dies, we move onto the next subject.
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Re: DPF delete EGR delete
IMO...Unless it's a genuine maintenance issue, any thread about DPF deletes should be removed/deleted.Doc wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:35 pm How far off topic has this thread gone?
The guy asked if it is correct that the DPF and EGR delete will fail MOT. I answered yes.
The guy asked if the van should be avoided. Again my answer was yes because in just asking the question the OP displayed that they have limited knowledge of the inns and outs of MOTs and how to avoid some failures.
There is no need to go into particular of how this and that can be done, how Mr X and Y are prepared to give you a pass or how politics might be involved. The questions were asked and answered, the other discussions have happened over and over and there is zero requirement to bring them up yet again.
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But this subject gets played out over and over and over, I don't mind differences of opinion on the subject of the questions asked but going all political isn't necessary.
Of course, my opinion isn't the only one that counts, but having the topic of illegal MOTs discussed isn't ever beneficial to the forum.
Repeated discussion only leads to an outcome where the forum preferred option appears as the opinion of whomever states their opinion more often.
The OPs questions were simple, as was my reply.
Of course, my opinion isn't the only one that counts, but having the topic of illegal MOTs discussed isn't ever beneficial to the forum.
Repeated discussion only leads to an outcome where the forum preferred option appears as the opinion of whomever states their opinion more often.
The OPs questions were simple, as was my reply.
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But you shouldnt avoid a vehicle just because its had a dpf and egr delete, ok fair enuf if your a bit of a clueless tree hugger then yes maybe you should, but if you have half a brain cell, like it or not theres a way round everything in this day and age, as has already been said if the vehicle was absolutly a1, the missing parts could be negotiated into the price, well try anyway, im with barbel on this matterDoc wrote:But this subject gets played out over and over and over, I don't mind differences of opinion on the subject of the questions asked but going all political isn't necessary.
Of course, my opinion isn't the only one that counts, but having the topic of illegal MOTs discussed isn't ever beneficial to the forum.
Repeated discussion only leads to an outcome where the forum preferred option appears as the opinion of whomever states their opinion more often.
The OPs questions were simple, as was my reply.
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I apologize to the OP for allegedly assuming they were either a clueless tree hugger or had less than 0.49 of a brain cell.
I would personally avoid the vehicle as it is not complete, has a £1200 part and a £300 part removed but likely priced the same or maybe more than another with same year condition and mileage. If I wanted to delete the DPF and EGR, I'll do it myself.
I would personally avoid the vehicle as it is not complete, has a £1200 part and a £300 part removed but likely priced the same or maybe more than another with same year condition and mileage. If I wanted to delete the DPF and EGR, I'll do it myself.
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I've been over your replies and you didn't mention tree huggers or brain cells so no need to apologiseDoc wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:39 pm I apologize to the OP for allegedly assuming they were either a clueless tree hugger or had less than 0.49 of a brain cell.
I would personally avoid the vehicle as it is not complete, has a £1200 part and a £300 part removed but likely priced the same or maybe more than another with same year condition and mileage. If I wanted to delete the DPF and EGR, I'll do it myself.
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Emissions aside, the dpf deleted car is no longer road worthy.
Unlikely to ever be spotted by an insurance company but the day it does and invalidates the policy, I sure as hell hope they don't me or a loved one!
Unlikely to ever be spotted by an insurance company but the day it does and invalidates the policy, I sure as hell hope they don't me or a loved one!
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This could go on for ever and a day with difference of opinion.jlaamweise wrote:Emissions aside, the dpf deleted car is no longer road worthy.
Unlikely to ever be spotted by an insurance company but the day it does and invalidates the policy, I sure as hell hope they don't me or a loved one!
If there is no evidence to suggest the insides of a dpf have been removed regardless of it being cut open or showing scars and it passes an emissions test then it will be perfectly roadworthy and will pass an MOT.
After reading this thread and everyone’s opinion I went to Vosa’s website and read the opinions of many MOT testers and a Vosa representative and they agree it’s going to hard to prove the dpf has no insides if it passes an emissions test.
I bought my van on a 64 plate for good money with no dpf and egr which have since been replaced at a cost of £450 and still runs 140bhp. My van was still a cheap van once I had put it right.
So I’d say if the van is a good price and your able to put it back to normal with the consideration of any other defects possible then buy it.
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Most sensible reply in this topicCabbs wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:32 pm This could go on for ever and a day with difference of opinion.
If there is no evidence to suggest the insides of a dpf have been removed regardless of it being cut open or showing scars and it passes an emissions test then it will be perfectly roadworthy and will pass an MOT.
After reading this thread and everyone’s opinion I went to Vosa’s website and read the opinions of many MOT testers and a Vosa representative and they agree it’s going to hard to prove the dpf has no insides if it passes an emissions test.
I bought my van on a 64 plate for good money with no dpf and egr which have since been replaced at a cost of £450 and still runs 140bhp. My van was still a cheap van once I had put it right.
So I’d say if the van is a good price and your able to put it back to normal with the consideration of any other defects possible then buy it.
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