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Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:32 pm
by owencardew
Hi,

I hope you are all well. I am about to start working on a Multifunction Steering Wheel Retrofit for my Caddy Mk4. Currently my Caddy has no MFSW, and Cruise Control installed on the Left Hand Stalk. My Transmission is DSG. My Radio is stock VW with Bluetooth.

I want to retrofit a Multifunction Steering Wheel from a Golf Mk7, with DSG Paddles. Could anyone tell me which Control Module, Slipring & Harness Part Numbers I would need to purchase in order to make this work? Would also like to know what Tool is used to remove the current steering wheel so I can order that online as well.

I live in Africa, so ordering all of these parts from UK is tedious, but I'd really like to get this to work!

Kind Regards,
Owen

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:16 pm
by stan-the-man
Hi Owen

Do you have vcds scan of your van?

Your slipring might already be suitable for mfsw so money saved there


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Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:19 pm
by bob86
I thought the MK7 steering wheel wouldn't work in caddy's, or is that only for 2k and 2k facelift?

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:31 pm
by owencardew
stan-the-man wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 12:16 pm Hi Owen

Do you have vcds scan of your van?

Your slipring might already be suitable for mfsw so money saved there ImageImage


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Hi Stan,

Here's a copy of my VCDS Scan...

Seems all the steering wheels on eBay are 5G0... I've been told only 6C0 Wheels are compatible with our Mk4 Caddys though...

Owen

Wednesday,08,May,2019,10:17:06:20143
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZGX096108 License Plate:
Mileage: 40290km-25035mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 2K-VN35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZGX096108 Mileage: 40290km-25035miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFHC) Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 018 NG HW: 03L 907 309 R
Component: R4 2,0L EDC H25 6638
Revision: 42H25--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 001D0012042500080000
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018NG 003004
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018NG_VN35.rod
VCID: 7CF7AFCAF7A5C8AA81-8028

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 063 E HW: 02E 927 770 AL
Component: GSG DSG AG6 531 4306
Revision: 06253104 Serial number: 00001506121925
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 183F935A2BDD048A05-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK100ESC.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 P HW: 7E0 907 379 M
Component: ESC H05 0132
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 40156000001298
Coding: 1479409BB26BA484287602764D8A25E3290000
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2 011001
ROD: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2_011.rod
VCID: 3F8D18C6A63313B2E4-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
Part No SW: 1K8 907 426 AH HW: 1K8 907 426 AH
Component: AC Manuell H20 0808
Revision: 00001002
Coding: 0010002002
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW32.rod
VCID: 79F9B6DEF897FD829A-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 AA HW: 5K0 937 086 AA
Component: BCM PQ35 M+ 122 0183
Revision: BD122001
Coding: 411A583E8025E12B088800829000896C0185C20852008020648440000040
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 73E584F6D2FB87D2D0-8026

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 D Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 07011 26 0512
Coding: 009795

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7N0 951 172
Component: Sensor, DWA 0 005 0502
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
Coding: 000000

2 Faults Found:
01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 116
Mileage: 39993 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.03.29
Time: 12:33:10

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 13.40 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
ON

01800 - Light Switch (E1)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 180
Mileage: 40274 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.05.04
Time: 18:50:41

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 Off
Voltage: 12.45 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
Part No SW: 1K8 919 465 HW: 5Q0 919 283
Component: PARKHILFE 4K H10 0479
Revision: -------- Serial number: 39291601203517
Coding: 0001000011
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW364GP00 001006
ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW364GP00_VW36.rod
VCID: 76E3BDE2C98992FAF7-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 D HW: 7E0 959 655 D
Component: VW10Airbag01Y 008 0016
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003PH002749O
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003159
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
VCID: 377D70E68E032BF22C-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 CK HW: 5K0 953 569 BB
Component: LENKS.MODUL 018 0230
Revision: FF010042 Serial number: 20150928300682
Coding: 4880160000
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
VCID: 78FFB3DAC39DE48AE5-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 2K5 920 876 A HW: 2K5 920 876 A
Component: KOMBI H04 1009
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 1808000400
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05730
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
VCID: 336544F69A7BC7D210-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AT HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
Component: J533 Gateway H57 1663
Revision: H57 Serial number: 091015F1000801
Coding: 357401
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 020BD1329D41BE5ACB-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 1009
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6ADB99928D31461A63-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-793.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 793
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 04 0174
Coding: 0000000
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 76E3BDE2018992FAF7-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140 3501
Revision: 00H22000
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 397976DE70173D82DA-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-792.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 792
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 04 0174
Coding: 0000000
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 75E1BAEE1C8F99E2FE-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 7F0 035 153 HW: 7F0 035 153
Component: Radio 012 0110
Revision: -------- Serial number: VWZGZ1S3045283
Coding: 00000220000000
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 5EB3C54249793ABA8F-800A

1 Fault Found:
00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 167
Mileage: 40094 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.04.13
Time: 09:17:54


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Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 11:59 pm
by owencardew
stan-the-man wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 12:16 pm Hi Owen

Do you have vcds scan of your van?

Your slipring might already be suitable for mfsw so money saved there ImageImage


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I could be wrong, but now it seems since my SWCM is 5K0, i may be able to use a 1K8 MFSW.... If thats the case, I just need to figure out what Airbag Harness and Highline SWCM I need to change to, perhaps BC or something like that...

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 3:38 am
by r1lea

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3663272416


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Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 3:44 am
by r1lea
And you need a “BD“ not a “BC”


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Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 4:18 am
by owencardew
@r1lea you're a legend!

Thank you for the link! I did spot that one before but wasn't sure having seen the location! :)

I think i need a BA... On the Ross-Tech Page: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... e_Versions

BD is listed as a Highline, but the Midline BB that i have already has the Steering Angle Sensor and the Highline BD doesn't have the Steering Angle Sensor... based on that wouldn't it be better to go for the BA that is Highline with Steering Angle Sensor to ensure compatibility?

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:09 am
by owencardew
Its confusing as the Ross-Tech site says that for the BB Model, It's 'NO' for Auto Transmission, but my Caddy is a DSG...

and for the BD like what is fitted to yours @r1lea, it shows 'YES' for Auto Transmission, yet your Caddy is a Manual...

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 8:12 am
by r1lea
Yes correct, you’d require a “BA”

I’ve added mine don’t forget, was just one I came across

Also, for it to support dsg is so it can support paddles on the wheel


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Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 8:15 am
by owencardew
What happens if I find a BA but the HW and SW of that BA Module appear slightly different? HW version seems the same but noticing a different SW version on tue Module stickers...

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:14 am
by owencardew
Perhaps a AL or H Module will also work, as they are also Highline with all 4 options ticked... I wonder if any resident expert on the forum will chime in too.... :?

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:54 am
by owencardew
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-VW-Golf-Eos- ... xyHntSVryE

This is a Highline Slipring together with appropriate stalks... It's an H, and ticks all the right boxes, but may be slightly older. Anyone know if that will matter, or as long as the 5K0-953-569 is the same, single Letter or Double Letter will still work?

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:18 am
by L33UKS
So been following this a little, my caddy came with paddle shifters, always up for upgrades ! When I go into steering ECU it fails all the time, I think I need the security access code for it

Can anyone help with it please ?

Keep getting

Coding rejected
Error 31 : request out of range

Re: Caddy Mk4 MFSW with DSG Paddleshift Retrofit

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:42 pm
by spacewalker
L33UKS wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:18 am So been following this a little, my caddy came with paddle shifters, always up for upgrades ! When I go into steering ECU it fails all the time, I think I need the security access code for it

Can anyone help with it please ?

Keep getting

Coding rejected
Error 31 : request out of range
No, no need any security access
Post vcds autoscan from 16th