VCDS MFSW Help please

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VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:30 pm

I have today fitted a multi function steering wheel with a new clock spring which i believe should support MFSW however when i go to code it on i don't get the option to do so have i missed something as i'm using VCDS for the first time below is the auto scan for thye steerin wheel before and after fitment have i missed one of the modues that need changing. can't seem to find a complete write up of what is needed.

scan before changing things

Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 1K5 953 507 M HW: 5K0 953 549
Component: Lenks.Modul 008 0080
Revision: -------- Serial number: 90422KEP000XB
Coding: 0080060000
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_VW36.rod
VCID: 3B5BC86BB21C949ABB-806E

No fault code found.

Scan after changing things

Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 1K5 953 507 M HW: 5K0 953 549
Component: Lenks.Modul 008 0080
Revision: -------- Serial number: 90422KEP000XB
Coding: 0080060000
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_VW36.rod
VCID: 3B5BC86BB21C949ABB-806E

No fault code found.

they appear to be the same despite the clock spring now being 5k0 953 549 "E" the old one didn't have a suffix
it sees the MFSW module in the steering wheel 5K0 959 542

Caddy is a 2011 face lift maxi ex British gas

i know i'm probably missing something just need help to see what it is

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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Doc » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:34 pm

It looks as though the module hasn't been changed, ever the serial number is the same.
Have you by chance fitted the old module back by mistake?
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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:43 pm

definitely changed the clock spring and the steering wheel, did i miss something else i should have changed? i thought the steering wheel control module is part of the clock spring on the 2011 caddys.

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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Doc » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:49 pm

It is, they are the one part.
Very strange....
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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:30 pm

i am trying to code it on in module 16 for steering wheel

reading out the module IDs comes as

it reads the new hadware with the "E" suffix and serial number 90440LIH000E0 but the van remembers its original part and serial number have i skipped a stage where its supposed to learn the newer module? done ignition cycles and battery resets nothing seems to work

Address 16: Steering wheel
Control Module Part Number: 5K0 953 507 BC
Component and/or Version: Lenks.Modul 008 0080
Software Coding: 4082140000
Work Shop Code: WSC 00028
VCID: 72C5254FA5D615D2A8-8026

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
Serial number: 90440LIH000E0
Identification: KO3-KLO
Revision: --------
Date: 17.09.12
Manufacturer number: 0302
Test stand number: 0504
Flash Status
Programming Attempts(application): 0/0
Successful Attempts(application): 0/0
Programming Attempts(data): 0
Successful Attempts(data): 0
Programming Status: 00000000
Flash Date: 00.00.00
Flash Tool Code(data): 00000 000 00000
Software
UDS: 00.00.01
UDS: 14.03.00
LIN 2.0: 01.02.05
CAN: 00.1E.02
CAN: 00.07.00
Theft prot.: 01.02.15
OSEK-OS: 00.1E.03
Theft prot.: 00.0A.00
Generic Net Mgt: 03.70.03
OSEK-Com: 00.1E.03
Theft prot.: 00.0D.00
Generic Net Mgt: 02.50.00
LIN 2.0: 00.1E.02
Misc.
Hardware number: 5K0 953 549 E
Workshop System Name: J527
Equipment/PR Code: 0000000000000000
Dataset Number: 5K0953507BC
Dataset Version: D005
End of Line Equipment Level: ------------------
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS
ASAM Dataset Revision: A05001
VCDS Info:
VCID: 72C5254FA5D615D2A8-8026
Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_VW36.rod

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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:28 pm

i have changed the part outlined in red the clockspring but kept my old steering control module it seems outlined in blue perhaps that is my issue

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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Doc » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:51 pm

The stalks shouldn't need changing, the coding is all in the combined SWCM/slipring module.
Your coding before and after is exactly the same, did you try coding the new module for MFSW?
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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:59 pm

i don't get the option for mfsw
i get
bit 0 steering angle sensor
bit 3 automatic transmission (ignition key removal lock)
bit 4 rear wiper installed
bit 5 button for driver assist system installed
bit 6 board computer controlled by wiper lever
bit 7 special handling for audi models active
could this be the first "E" that doesn't support MFSW
the only thing i got out of today is the buttons light up lol and a flat battery due to drl's being on with the igntion

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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Doc » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:03 pm

Those are the bits from the first byte (byte 0) in the hex string.
Byte 3 or 4 should have a drop box to alloy the coding of MFSW vis Lin 2.0
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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:48 pm

didn't notice any drop boxes

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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:39 am

last night i had the thought that you click on the individual boxes and get more options for that part, tried it this moring and it was correct (no news to those of you who know what you are doing lol) i got the dropdown box for MFSW LIN 2.0 and coded the car to that. let the ignition die off and car go to sleep. turned it on again and still the buttons don't work doh. and yes this was at 4 in the morning first thing i did when i got up for work, its really bugging me
thanks Doic for your help so far
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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:16 pm

autoscan after coding shows (if i understand it right) 8A for MFSW LIN2 with push to talk button installed which i believe i have. buttons still don't work they only light up.
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 BC HW: 5K0 953 549 E
Component: Lenks.Modul 008 0080
Revision: -------- Serial number: 90440LIH000E0
Coding: 008A140000
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00020
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_VW36.rod
VCID: 72C5254FA5D615D2A8-8026

Multifunction steering wheel control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 HW: 5K0 959 542 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H05 0010
Serial number: 0005581
Coding: 820000


i have successfully coded on the auto lock and unlock feature so i seem to have a little understanding of what is required just no idea what i am missing for the MFSW

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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Relentless » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:21 pm

Finally sorted with help from Doc, it seems i forgot the enable the MFD in the cluster, i thought it would detect it when the MFSW was enabled but i guess it doesn't work that way. Top Job Doc Thanks for your time cheers

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Re: VCDS MFSW Help please

Post by Modelno » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:16 pm

Hello, I have the same problem the buttons light up but they don't work, can you explain what was the last change you made? thanks greetings

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