ABS pump part number

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ABS pump part number

Post by RedLion » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:23 pm

Hey folks,

wondering if one of the gurus around here can help, i have the abs and traction control lights on, after a bit of reading it seems the ABS pump is most likely at fault. I dont have access to VCDS and am on a bit of a budget, am i right in thinking that if i swap the alloy pump section and keep the existing module that it should be a fair fix and error free? if so can anyone furnish me with a part number?
Vehicle is a 2009 Maxi C20 1.9tdi
thanks in advance

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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by Doc » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:43 pm

I suspect a wheel speed sensor or encoder sooner than a pump failure on your year of caddy.

Anyway, if you do want to go ahead a stick a pump on it, your electrical module will be a 1K0-907-379AF, get a pump with that module on and you should be fine.
You will need some form of diagnostic system if you get any air into the pump.
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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by RedLion » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:57 pm

Thanks Doc, the company i bought it from had previously been told the pump was faulty hence selling the vehicle, fingers crossed. The part arrived today . . .

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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by RedLion » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:26 am

So, yesterday I drove to meet @sean1066 for a little vcds diagnosis, and according to software the fault lies in the coding of the module rather than the part itself. Perhaps it has had something replaced in the past. Without having the original part am I knackered?

I didn’t know my caddy looked so rough until I saw Sean’s.

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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by Doc » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:06 pm

What exactly was the fault code description?
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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by RedLion » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:45 pm

That’s a question for @sean1066 he has the file I believe


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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by NZDubNurd » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:33 pm

VW can tell you what was originally fitted.

People think the letters on the end are supercession numbers and anything newer will work... it is NOT done like that on VW part numbers - the suffix letters regularly denote options and differences that may make parts completely incompatible.

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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by Sean1066 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:36 pm

@doc
I will post the scan tomorrow after work as I’ve not had a chance today.
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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by Sean1066 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:46 pm

@doc
this is redlion scan
Tuesday,21,July,2020,14:05:54:30029
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ8X122290 License Plate: AK09 BSX
Mileage: 200750km-124740mi Repair Order:


Chassis Type: 2K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 46 52 56

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ8X122290 Mileage: 200750km-124740miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 PD HW: 03G 906 021 CG
Component: R4 1,9L EDC 000SG 2387
Revision: --H07--- Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NB1PF
Coding: 0000031
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00160
VCID: 70B9D320F6A4475BA3B-8024

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels:. 1K0-907-379-MK70M.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AF HW: 1K0 907 379 AF
Component: MABS MK70M 0104
Revision: 00H32001
Coding: 0020801
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 76B5E53894C0696B797-8022

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
003 - Mechanical Failure

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 01000008041093
Coding: 00884F030004100057000000000000000008FB075C000100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 6FBBD05CEB9A58A3BA1-803A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 050208 021 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 35110

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:. 1K0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 919 475 HW: 1K0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 005 1104
Revision: 00005000 Serial number: 0 263 004 193
Coding: 000001
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 6FBBD05CE79A58A3BA1-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW52.lbl
Part No SW: 6Q0 909 605 AH HW: 6Q0 909 605 AH
Component: 09 AIRBAG VW52 023 2400
Revision: 04023000 Serial number: 0037TD0HS0W0
Coding: 0012345
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00160
VCID: 7DA7FA14B1F63A3338D-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BQ HW: 1K0 953 549 BQ
Component: J0527 051 0100
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 025D89E8C80845CB45F-8056

5 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00885 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal 50
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 2K0 920 944 C HW: 2K0 920 944 C
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1212
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NB1PF
Coding: 0016401
Shop #: WSC 54064 210 66681
VCID: 2C0107501A0C63BBDF3-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 270208F2001436
Coding: 89A01F020002027401
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00160
VCID: 303913203624075BE3B-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 2K0 920 944 C HW: 2K0 920 944 C
Component: IMMO VDD 1212
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NB1PF
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C0107501A0C63BBDF3-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D HW: 1T0 959 701 D
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1206
Coding: 0000560
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 38292B00DE54DF1BABB-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 808B0C087F2D8405485A030010C0
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00160
VCID: 005983E0C60457DB53B-8054

Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted

Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted

Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted

2 Faults Found:
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01038 - Central Locking Thermal Protection
000 - - - Intermittent

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D HW: 1T0 959 702 D
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1206
Coding: 0000560
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 392F2E04E55EC613545-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 186 AD
Component: Radio GR0 034 0033
Revision: 0003404S Serial number: VWZ2Z2H6095659
Coding: 0020200
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 6889BB40CE748F9BFBB-803C

No fault code found.

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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by RedLion » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:44 pm

Bump. Can anyone shed any light on this one?

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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by Doc » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:53 am

Have you already changed the abs module?
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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by RedLion » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:59 am

Doc wrote:Have you already changed the abs module?
I have not, previous owner may have


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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by Doc » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:21 am

Have a look at the ABS wiring.
The coding is correct for that module but if they've changed it from an older type it might need a wiring change.
If it is what i think, it's a simple wire swap on the module plug, the green link wire should be from position 15 to 22 for that module.
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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by RedLion » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:42 am

I’ve had a look at it doc, the green wire looks to be in position 6 not 15,

Took a picture of the connector

And of the pump that’s in there

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Re: ABS pump part number

Post by Doc » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:59 pm

Maybe it's not green, have a look for the wire link looping two terminals together on the abs plug.
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