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Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Dave9n3 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:32 pm

I’ve just fitted stalk and steering control module. Got midline clocks (1T0920954C) as standard and already have the diagnostics wire (58 reg)

Original steering module was software (0101)
New cruise control compatible midline module is (0100)

Both modules old and new are the ‘type 2’

Original 1K0953549BQ
New 1K0953549BN

Have also coded engine module to accept cruise control

Coded in using the helper that pops up and I’ve got a couple of faults now. Wondered if anyone else had encountered.

Wondering if this steering control module doesn’t accept automatic transmission. I’m also not getting a cruise control light on the dash when I operate the switch (not sure if these clocks have the light) guessing I’ve got a module that isn’t compatible.

The faults I have are

01044
Control module incorrectly coded

00194
Ignition key removal lock
Electrical fault in circuit

02413

Switch for selector lever position P lock
Implausible signal.


Appreciate that helping to diagnose this stuff over the internet is a pain so if I’m missing any info that’d help loads please let me know and I’ll get it.

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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Doc » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:56 pm

Hi Dave, I'll snip the important information from your question.
Dave9n3 wrote:
Original 1K0953549BQ
New 1K0953549BN
This is fine according to the Ross-tech page with module numbers and information.
Dave9n3 wrote: The faults I have are

01044
Control module incorrectly coded

00194
Ignition key removal lock
Electrical fault in circuit

02413

Switch for selector lever position P lock
Implausible signal.
The "incorrectly coded" fault is self explanatory. The module can "see" something it's not coded for or cannot "see" something it is coded for.

The "ignition key removal lock" having a fault might be that the connection was not good when the module was put into your caddy.
The "switch for....P lock" is strange, that's a DSG related fault, signal is from the selector to the steering wheel control module.
Did you check this was all ok before you started?

Do you have before and after Autoscans?


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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by spacewalker » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:13 am

Issue with electromagnet in ignition
Or is stuck, or not work, or not connect
That is why SWCM see coding, but cant detect it
....

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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Dave9n3 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:57 am

Pretty sure I saved a full auto scan a few weeks ago so I’ll try and upload the result of that soon.

I’ll also put up the coding list and what I did/selected.

I’ve been out for a drive and the cruise control actually works, but seems like there’s something it doesn’t like about the DSG.

I’m 99% sure I selected the right coding for auto transmission. Will update with the useful info ASAP, thanks for your reply!

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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Dave9n3 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:14 pm

The following table applies to Control Modules with Software Version 0101 or lower.

0?xxxxx: Vehicle Type
0 = Normal
1 = Special Purpose (e.g Taxi)
0x?xxxx: Transmission
0 = Manual Transmission
1 = Automatic Transmission
0xx?xxx: Steering Wheel
0 = Steering Wheel without Multifunction
1 = 3-Spoke Steering Wheel without Multifunction
2 = 3/4-Spoke Steering Wheel with Multifunction without Cruise & Voice Control
3 = 3/4-Spoke Steering Wheel with Multifunction with Cruise & Voice Control
0xxx?xx: Additional Equipment
+1 = Tiptronic (Shift Paddels)
0xxxx?x: Board Computer / Cruise Control System (CCS)
0 = w/o Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
1 = with Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
2 = w/o Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)
4 = with Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)
0xxxxx?: Rear Wiper
1 = Rear Wiper not installed
2 = Rear Wiper installed



ORIGINAL CODING IN OLD SCM =0010002
NEW ATTEMPTED CODING = 0010021

(Rear wiper is removed so decided to code this out at the same time)
I believe I don't have the board computer as I've not got the correct clocks for it

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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Dave9n3 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:15 pm

Tuesday,29,September,2020,19:47:18:03179
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ9X042332 License Plate:


Chassis Type: 2K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 46 52 56

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ9X042332 Mileage: 293500km-182372miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 PD HW: 03G 906 021 CG
Component: R4 1,9L EDC 000AG 2387
Revision: --H08--- Serial number: VWX7Z0H73NF009
Coding: 0000078
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 70EA77B863AF7806E3-8024

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 051 D HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
Component: GSG DSG AG6 431 1803
Revision: 04843012 Serial number: 00000807290417
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 35110 666 38454
VCID: 14221B283777E426A7-8040

1 Fault Found:
18149 - Clutch Pressure Adaptation
P1741 - 002 - Limit Reached - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 255
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 293438 km
Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels:. 1K0-907-379-MK70M.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AF HW: 1K0 907 379 AF
Component: MABS MK70M 0104
Revision: 00H32001
Coding: 0020801
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00160
VCID: 76E641A001CB563639-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HM HW: 1K0 820 047 HM
Component: Climatic PQ35 142 1111
Revision: 00142031 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 76E641A001CB563639-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 D HW: 3C8 937 049 D
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 01000008738324
Coding: 00884F030004100057000000000000000008FB075C000120000000000000
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 326EBDB0AD230A16D5-8066

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 230708 021 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 35110

1 Fault Found:
01519 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Right (M17)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 172
Mileage: 257270 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 12.35 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW52.lbl
Part No SW: 6Q0 909 605 AH HW: 6Q0 909 605 AH
Component: 1D AIRBAG VW52 025 2400
Revision: 06025000 Serial number: 0037TR01UH9.
Coding: 0012612
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00160
VCID: 7DF45E8C24FD056E78-8028

2 Faults Found:
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BQ HW: 1K0 953 549 BQ
Component: J0527 752 0101
Coding: 0010002
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 020E2D705D037A9605-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 920 954 C HW: 1T0 920 954 C
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1222
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H73NF009
Coding: 0016401
Shop #: WSC 00329 067 57207
VCID: 356486AC5C4D1D2EF0-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 5063
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 160808F1000224
Coding: 8D801F060002027401
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00160
VCID: 356486AC5C4D1D2EF0-8060

1 Fault Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 172
Mileage: 265169 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:12:16


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 920 954 C HW: 1T0 920 954 C
Component: IMMO VDD 1222
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H73NF009
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 356486AC5C4D1D2EF0-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 H HW: 1T0 959 701 H
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1206
Coding: 0000560
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 3C7293887F67CC660F-8068

1 Fault Found:
00912 - Window Regulator Switch; Front Left (E40)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 808A0C087F2D8405485A030010C0
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45725
VCID: 000A2778530F688613-8054

Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted

Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted

Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted

1 Fault Found:
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 H HW: 1T0 959 702 H
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1206
Coding: 0000560
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
VCID: 3D749E8C647DC56E38-8068

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:29)--------------------------

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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Doc » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:21 am

So your cruise control does work, just intermittent,?
If so, it's likely the fault in the DSG causing the cruise to disengage.

Definitely check the steering wheel control module is seated correctly for the faults you have in your first post.
Board computer refers to a trip control stalk, the right hand stalk with buttons for a trip computer.
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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Dave9n3 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:37 pm

Will do! The cruise control actually works spot on surprisingly! Only shows the light on the dash when it’s actually set and working.

My polo shows it on the dash as soon as the switch is in the ‘on’ position even if you’re not set at any speed

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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Doc » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:15 pm

Yea, that's standard on the caddy instrument cluster.
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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Dave9n3 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:37 pm

Just re checked all the connections and powered back up again.

PRNDS still flashes at me!

Swapped back to original SCM and it’s fine straight away.
Maybe this module just isn’t compatible with automatic?

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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Doc » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:48 pm

It seems so, maybe the SW version has some problem when on DSG.
An alternative midline module should be east to come by.
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Re: Cruise control fitting DSG

Post by Dave9n3 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:54 pm

Yupp! thanks for the help so far, I’ll search out another module and report back when I get it working haha!

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