New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

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New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

Post by stan-the-man »

Hi everyone,
Just picked my 14 reg Caddy yesterday, after few hours cleaning decided to fit some
extras I gathered over the period it was being built :)

One was MFSW.
Me and my pal got it fitted ok but not all buttons work. The ones that dont are menu buttons (left/right ) on the right and voice button on left side.
Did anyone come across this? Perhaps someone could post their VCDS scan for the steering wheel?
It seems new Caddys are given Caddy clocks not Touran like I originally thought as mine have 2K0 part number. I upgraded my VCDS to latest beta version and we could see the long coding bytes ok, my old VCDS would see bytes but not list description for options within.

My BT module is 7P6 one so I imagine it should support voice dialling.
Also there is no faults in any modules.

Any info or ideas would be highly appreciated

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Re: New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

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Do you have a highline instrument cluster?
If not, the right hand L&R buttons won't do anything.
Is the SWCM coded for MFSW with PTT?

Can you post an autoscan?
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Re: New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

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Yes Doc,
My caddy is trendline with BT from factory, MFD menu and all that works with stalk and all MFSW buttons work too apart from voice activation on left side button panel and I can't scroll through menu using left/right buttons on right side button panel.
Looks like the slip ring sees buttons but clocks not for some reason.
Checked in ETKA and there is only two type of clocks per each fuel type available for 2014 Caddy- one without multi function display and with multi function display.
My clocks are 2K0 920 876 F (km/h).
I will do the scan now and post.
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Re: New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

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Your cluster will need to be programmed for MFSW.
Don't think VCDS can do that.
You'll need to remove the trip stalk if you do get it programmed as it'll revert to stalk only if you touch the trip buttons.
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Re: New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

Post by stan-the-man »

Hmm, never heard of that to be honest but will maybe ring the dealers on
Monday and ask them.
Its strange as the stalk is fully functional + ok button and up/down ones on MFSW work too.
You think the stalk could be in the way?
Also wonder what's the story with voice control not working :(
Thank you Doc!
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Re: New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

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No idea on the voice control but I know the L&R buttons will not work if cluster is coded for trip stalk. Had mine revert to stalk control after trying it in another van.
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Re: New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

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Post autosan, we will see what is there
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Re: New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

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Spoko spacewalker :D , here it is:

No faults...

Code: Select all

Saturday,19,July,2014,20:31:52:01326
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.7.2.0
Data version: 20140714


VIN: WV1ZZZ2K   License Plate: 
Mileage: 90km-55mi   Repair Order: 



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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 2K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 77

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZFX015815   Mileage: 90km-55miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYE)       Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 PA    HW: 03L 907 425 C
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H43 6929  
   Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00114016032500080000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023PA 003008
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023DB.rod
   VCID: 74EC1E77DFBE019A97-8021

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: 433C200D092303FFC21304E5901EC081A1000020
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 7EF83C5FE9F25BCAF1-802B

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 GK    HW: 5K0 907 044 GK
   Component: Climatronic   H19 1313  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0010004002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VN35.rod
   VCID: 7AF0304FFDDA77EACD-802F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 S    HW: 5K0 937 086 S
   Component: BCM PQ35 M+   122 0174  
   Revision: BD122001    
   Coding: 6F1A583A8025306E08C800809400116403557408726D8560E48000000048
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 448C8EB7C79EF11AE7-8011

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A
   Component: Wischer 12051  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 030614 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0230ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 1Q0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 2K0 919 475     HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H03 0004  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901415000127
   Coding: 108001
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VN3370000 001006
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VN3370000.rod
   VCID: 70E41267ABA63DBA73-8025

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag02E H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00R6M9J
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003245
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_SE12.rod
   VCID: 356AE3739444589260-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BR    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20130521101204
   Coding: 500A140000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7DFA3B53ECF440D2E8-8028

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 2K0 920 876 F    HW: 2K0 920 876 F
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0905  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 180C00
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN35.rod
   VCID: 336EDD6B9A3046A24E-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AP    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
   Component: J533  Gateway H57 1653  
   Revision:   H57       Serial number: 100614F2000065
   Coding: 357401
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 7EF83C5FE9F25BCAF1-802B

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0905  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: 6AD0000F8D7AC76A3D-803F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0001584
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 48949A873BB6D57A0B-801D

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 3972EF43705CBCF284-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0001584
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 479699BB36A8DA0202-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels: 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0111  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 090600000F000200
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt.rod
   VCID: 3776E97B8E48AA8272-8062

   Left_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329 A    HW: 1T0 941 329 A
   Component: LeiMo links  H06 0007 
   Coding: 320000

   Right_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329 A    HW: 1T0 941 329 A
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H06 0007 
   Coding: 320000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AN    HW: 1K0 035 186 AN
   Component: RCD310 EU     H05 5006  
   Revision: -----09S    Serial number: VWZ4Z2P1235774
   Coding: 05000201010013
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 72E0186FADAA0FAA85-8027

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 M    HW: 7P6 035 730 M
   Component: TELEFON       H16 4217  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666369882
   Coding: 0210010000010110
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 3C7CF657B76E89DA9F-8069

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:44)--------------------------
Thanks lads, hopefully we will find a solution as Im sure there might be people in the future who will come across same thing.

VW dealer visit might be on the cards too if nothing else works. Or might even contact Ross-Tech directly.

Cheers

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Re: New Caddy MFSW retrofit -not all buttons work

Post by stan-the-man »

Some good news,
We managed to get the menu buttons working yesterday.
In steering wheel module, the "board computer controlled by wiper stalk" was selected so we unticked that and we let the car power down and voila!
Works perfect! :D

Now we just need to get voice control going...
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Post by phanson »

I'm in the same position as yourself - no voice activation, but it isn't the end of the world. The dealers are bloody clueless and bleat on about warranty invalidities by retro fitting stuff.
I'd just ignore them - unless you've found the much sort and rumoured 'good' VW commercial dealer?
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Post by stan-the-man »

I think it could be the module not supporting it.
Found few others with different cars having same issue with this M revision.
Unless we find someone successfully using it, or I might just swap modules with mk6 one that works to test it.
Very annoying haha
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Post by Poffe »

I know this is an old thread, but maybe if some one else finds it and want to activate voice control this might be a link to the solution:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/ ... post572596
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