Dealer true or telling fibs?
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Dealer true or telling fibs?
Engine cover done, looks great. Moving onto engine under tray and bonnet insulation.
Got codes all ready for dealer to order.
He says to me the part isn’t listed for my van, ok I said, probably vw being cheap, i know it’s the correct part number, he says I shouldn’t put them on as vw wouldn’t put them on for a reason… what reason? He says most likely to do with the design of the engine and keeping the flow of air correct and keeping everything cool…
Now I think he’s talking out of his back side, but is there any truth in that? I said I’d go away and think about it, I can order no problem, just wondered why he was putting me off…
Got codes all ready for dealer to order.
He says to me the part isn’t listed for my van, ok I said, probably vw being cheap, i know it’s the correct part number, he says I shouldn’t put them on as vw wouldn’t put them on for a reason… what reason? He says most likely to do with the design of the engine and keeping the flow of air correct and keeping everything cool…
Now I think he’s talking out of his back side, but is there any truth in that? I said I’d go away and think about it, I can order no problem, just wondered why he was putting me off…
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Re: MK4 Engine Under Tray and Bonnet Insulation
I've had them on my Caddy's for the past 10 years without any issues...
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
I'm pretty confident it's money saving by VW as these exact same engines are in their consumer car line with covers etc..
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
Sounds like he has no idea what he’s on about, just give him the codes and tell him to order them.
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
When the guy searches for your VIN number, the system will only show what has been fitted to your van. If something is compatible but wasn't fitted from factory then it'll show it as not for your VIN.
There are several items you'll find that will give the same result, just go with the part number you have and tell the guy not to worry whether it should or should not be fitted.
There are several items you'll find that will give the same result, just go with the part number you have and tell the guy not to worry whether it should or should not be fitted.
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
VW probably didn't fit the items as a cost saving ,if the truth be known ,I personally cant see what under body insulation has to do with the cooling ,fit the items and if it starts to overheat take them off ,and he's a parts man not a design engineer
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
I fitted the the under tray cover on both my caddys, no issues whatsoever. Takes a little longer to do the oil change to remove it.
Also fitted the bonnet noise insulation too, again no problems again.
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Also fitted the bonnet noise insulation too, again no problems again.
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
Such items are not really required for a commercial vehicle and in such a competitive market vw have to cut as many luxuries out as possible in order to get inline with other marques out there.
An engine that takes longer to warm up or is slightly more noisy isn't an issue to a builders van or fleet vehicle, one that doesn't get road crud thrown up over the engine also less important.
Similarly, cloth seats, cheaper radios, standard steering wheels, clocks, etc etc all cost cutting practices.
You can specify a lot of extras when buying a new van to make them more inline with a comfy car but the price soon builds up considerably at vw.
An undertray, battery blanket, bonnet damping and engine cover aren't really things often specced as they don't really affect much and are costly things a new buyer simply doesn't want to purchase, they aren't seen and don't affect the drive so vw don't even offer them.
It's your van, you do what you want to it, the same engine with higher performance is in many other vehicles that do come with bonnet damping, undertray etc and have no issues, there's thousands of vans out there that have had them put on with no issues.
As said before put them on and if you don't like them or it effects your van negatively take them back off, there will always be a queue of people to buy them off you.
An engine that takes longer to warm up or is slightly more noisy isn't an issue to a builders van or fleet vehicle, one that doesn't get road crud thrown up over the engine also less important.
Similarly, cloth seats, cheaper radios, standard steering wheels, clocks, etc etc all cost cutting practices.
You can specify a lot of extras when buying a new van to make them more inline with a comfy car but the price soon builds up considerably at vw.
An undertray, battery blanket, bonnet damping and engine cover aren't really things often specced as they don't really affect much and are costly things a new buyer simply doesn't want to purchase, they aren't seen and don't affect the drive so vw don't even offer them.
It's your van, you do what you want to it, the same engine with higher performance is in many other vehicles that do come with bonnet damping, undertray etc and have no issues, there's thousands of vans out there that have had them put on with no issues.
As said before put them on and if you don't like them or it effects your van negatively take them back off, there will always be a queue of people to buy them off you.
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
It is amazing what employees at dealers say. The problem is that they see such a vast array of vehicles and models and they’re simply not interested in the details. They just say any old rubbish that falls out of their brain. I think putting the cover on is a nice touch and keeps general dirt and grit further away from the top of the engine.
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
Thank you for your replies, I agree with them all, will purchase tomorrow!
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
All fitted, van feels finished now.
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
well enjoy it while it lasts, it could explode at any moment now you added those plastic panels
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
EML came on today… the day after…
I’m expecting the same intermittent adblue error
I’m expecting the same intermittent adblue error
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
Lots and lots of people have the covers fitted so I wouldn’t worry.
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Re: Dealer true or telling fibs?
It’s been fine.
The EML is the standard adblue error.
Annoying…
The EML is the standard adblue error.
Annoying…